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But what Shane said about 'sharing your aesthetic' is interesting, and taps into the discussion of Jeff's quartet. What if they don't share your aesthetic? Why not meet their expectations to some degree as they are expected to meet yours? [Edit: That's why I did.] How far would the commission have to go before you would reject it? (What if they raised the price?) In general, how much can the commissioner ask of the composer? They're already asking for instrumentation and usually time and difficulty and, how you say, value-for-money. What would you reject, and what would have to change to get you to accept?
Dennis
Back in the 90's I was offered a commission to write a piece for 1 piano 18 hands. I turned it down because I didn't think it was something I could do with the style I work in. After a long car ride home (from Albuquerque to L.A.), I came up with a solution to the problem. I called the guy to see if he was still interested, he was, and so I did it. My first real commission, and I got $500, so not too bad.
This is where I might get mysef into trouble here . . .
One of the main reasons I purposefully stayed out of the tv & film industry is that I'm only interested in writing the style of music I write. The business doesn't work that way. You write what's needed - could be a classical cue, a dixieland cue, a reggae cue, whatever. Some people are brilliant at this (such as Alf Clausen). I am not. Also, making music is a very personal thing to me, so I only make what I want to hear.
In another post, I said that to me, the only duty of the artist is to be sincere. I could not write a twelve-tone piece and be sincere. I could probably pull off a good one, but it would be b.s. on my part.
My approach has always been making sure that the person commissioning me knows what I do and hires me for that. I may not get as much work as others, but I'm willing to accept that.
I hope I didn't ramble too much.
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz said:But what Shane said about 'sharing your aesthetic' is interesting, and taps into the discussion of Jeff's quartet. What if they don't share your aesthetic? Why not meet their expectations to some degree as they are expected to meet yours? [Edit: That's why I did.] How far would the commission have to go before you would reject it? (What if they raised the price?) In general, how much can the commissioner ask of the composer? They're already asking for instrumentation and usually time and difficulty and, how you say, value-for-money. What would you reject, and what would have to change to get you to accept?
Dennis
Cool story. And ramble all you want. We'll just make make more web pages. ;)
So how did you do it? Strumming, banging, etc.?
Shane W. Cadman said:Back in the 90's I was offered a commission to write a piece for 1 piano 18 hands. I turned it down because I didn't think it was something I could do with the style I work in. After a long car ride home (from Albuquerque to L.A.), I came up with a solution to the problem. I called the guy to see if he was still interested, he was, and so I did it. My first real commission, and I got $500, so not too bad.
This is where I might get mysef into trouble here . . .
One of the main reasons I purposefully stayed out of the tv & film industry is that I'm only interested in writing the style of music I write. The business doesn't work that way. You write what's needed - could be a classical cue, a dixieland cue, a reggae cue, whatever. Some people are brilliant at this (such as Alf Clausen). I am not. Also, making music is a very personal thing to me, so I only make what I want to hear.
In another post, I said that to me, the only duty of the artist is to be sincere. I could not write a twelve-tone piece and be sincere. I could probably pull off a good one, but it would be b.s. on my part.
My approach has always been making sure that the person commissioning me knows what I do and hires me for that. I may not get as much work as others, but I'm willing to accept that.
I hope I didn't ramble too much.
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz said:But what Shane said about 'sharing your aesthetic' is interesting, and taps into the discussion of Jeff's quartet. What if they don't share your aesthetic? Why not meet their expectations to some degree as they are expected to meet yours? [Edit: That's why I did.] How far would the commission have to go before you would reject it? (What if they raised the price?) In general, how much can the commissioner ask of the composer? They're already asking for instrumentation and usually time and difficulty and, how you say, value-for-money. What would you reject, and what would have to change to get you to accept?
Dennis
Well, seeing as I deal primarily with repetitive tonal music, the problem was how do I make a piece of music I like, considering the novel aspect of the piece. What I did was give each person a piece of the keyboard and then orchestrate from there. The piece is called "The Noise of a Multitude" - I start it with everybody playing every key at the same time. How often does that get to happen live, right? As that fades out, the "music" appears. Then, it's a slow build to the end. Due to certain physical limitations to the performance, it is only a few minutes long, on a few pages, with no page turns (if I remember correctly). It's quite amusing to watch it be performed, with people sitting, standing, leaning and crouching.
Here's the best part of the story: It premeried in China, and they had to change the title due to the "political nature" of my title. I was political without even trying!
Jeff Harrington said:Cool story. And ramble all you want. We'll just make make more web pages. ;)
So how did you do it? Strumming, banging, etc.?
Shane W. Cadman said:Back in the 90's I was offered a commission to write a piece for 1 piano 18 hands. I turned it down because I didn't think it was something I could do with the style I work in. After a long car ride home (from Albuquerque to L.A.), I came up with a solution to the problem. I called the guy to see if he was still interested, he was, and so I did it. My first real commission, and I got $500, so not too bad.
This is where I might get mysef into trouble here . . .
One of the main reasons I purposefully stayed out of the tv & film industry is that I'm only interested in writing the style of music I write. The business doesn't work that way. You write what's needed - could be a classical cue, a dixieland cue, a reggae cue, whatever. Some people are brilliant at this (such as Alf Clausen). I am not. Also, making music is a very personal thing to me, so I only make what I want to hear.
In another post, I said that to me, the only duty of the artist is to be sincere. I could not write a twelve-tone piece and be sincere. I could probably pull off a good one, but it would be b.s. on my part.
My approach has always been making sure that the person commissioning me knows what I do and hires me for that. I may not get as much work as others, but I'm willing to accept that.
I hope I didn't ramble too much.
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz said:But what Shane said about 'sharing your aesthetic' is interesting, and taps into the discussion of Jeff's quartet. What if they don't share your aesthetic? Why not meet their expectations to some degree as they are expected to meet yours? [Edit: That's why I did.] How far would the commission have to go before you would reject it? (What if they raised the price?) In general, how much can the commissioner ask of the composer? They're already asking for instrumentation and usually time and difficulty and, how you say, value-for-money. What would you reject, and what would have to change to get you to accept?
Dennis
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